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#Jismail讨论搬砖贴#Depthmap楼梯电梯如何处理 [复制链接]

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楼主  发表于 2021-12-24 13:49  

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Hi Fanny, 

 Martin is right. The manual connection he speeks of is the 'join' function (represented by a green and gray dot and an arrow between them in the icon). Don't connect the stairs with a new regular line! Note that the line that appears when you join counts as 0 steps, so it is just as if the lines you join were intersecting. (It also disappears when you leave the 'join' mode, but don't worry - it's still there. You'll see it if you start using the 'join' function again, similar to how it works in the VGA function.)

It may be worth to stress again the need to model staircases (and elevators) properly

I have successfully modeled multi-story buildings following the same principle. It's published in the Delft Symposium ('Parallell spatial scales', ), and a bit more on the specifics of stair-modelling in SSS7 ('Architectural Fashion Magazines', e.g. Figure 3). 'My' way and the way Martin et al present it in the paper linked in his mail are quite similar, really (SSS6 in Istanbul, 
'Mulit Level Complexity...'). Through this way of modeling floor-connections I've found strong correlations between movement and integration in both large public libraries and department stores, although back in the time I did the Library studies it was in WebMap and in the department stores it was for VGA-analysis.

Note that even though the latter paper primarily discusses VGA-modeling, the principles of "creating numbers of configurational steps for the staircases" are refinements from the axial-line studies and would apply there as well, and is derived from basic principles of how to model spatial relations in plan. If you aim for angular measures it may be slightly trickier.

For clarity, linkes here:

SSS7 paper: http://www.sss7.org/Proceedings/04%20Building%20Morphology%20and%20Emergent%20Performativity/057_Koch.pdf
SSS5 paper: http://www.spacesyntax.tudelft.nl/media/longpapers2/danielkoch.pdf
(Libraries also: http://www.arch.kth.se/sad/publications/thesises/dk_lic_thesis.pdf)

Best
Daniel

Daniel Koch
Researcher | Teacher
KTH School of Architecture
100 44 Stockholm, Sweden

你好,Fanny,

       马丁说的是对的。他所说的手动连接是“join”功能(由图标中的绿色和灰色圆点以及它们之间的箭头表示)。注意不要用新的线连接楼梯!请注意,连接时显示的线计为0步,因此,就好像连接的线是相交的。(当你离开“join”模式时,它也会消失,但别担心,它仍然存在。如果你再次点开“join”功能,你又会看到它的,这与VGA功能中的工作方式类似。)

       也许值得再次强调的是,需要对楼梯(和电梯)进行适当的建模。

       我已经成功地按照同样的原则为多层建筑建模。它发表在了Delft研讨会(“平行空间尺度”)上,以及楼梯建模的细节,我发表在了SSS7(“建筑时尚杂志”,图3)上。我的方式和Martin等人在其邮件中链接的论文中呈现的方式非常相似,(伊斯坦布尔的SSS6,“多层次复杂性…”)。通过这种模拟楼层连接的方式,我发现大型公共图书馆和百货公司的移动和整合之间存在着很强的相关性,尽管在我做图书馆研究的时候,它是在网络地图中,在百货公司是用于VGA分析的。

       注意,尽管后一篇文章主要讨论VGA建模,但“为楼梯创建多个配置步骤”的原则是对轴线研究的改进,也适用于轴线研究,并源自如何在平面图中建模空间关系的基本原则。如果你的目标是角度测量,可能会有点棘手。

       为清楚表明我的想法,请看以下链接。

丹尼尔

Dear Fanny Goldsmith,
at least for Axial Line Analysis there is a possibility in Depthmap: import (or draw) and axail map for each level separately, but within the same document. To make the connection between the levels, introduce additional axial lines to represent the 
staircases. This has to be done such that the actual inter-visibility situation between the levels is suitably reflected. Finally, after the separate maps and the intermediate lines have been created, use manual connections in depthmap to connect the 
intermediate axes with the respective axial maps of each level.

We used the same technique to model a multi-level conference centre:http://www.space.bartlett.ucl.ac.uk/events/sc06/proceedings/hoelscher-sssc.pdf(page 7 shows the connections in detail)

Regards  from Freiburg,
Martin.




Am 01.05.10 12:50, schrieb Fanny Goldsmith:  



你好,Fanny,
    至少对于轴线分析,可以在Depthmap:import(或draw)和axail map中分别为每个级别导入(或绘制)和axail map,但需要在同一文档中。如果要在标高之间建立连接,
请引入其他轴线来表示标高楼梯。必须这样做,以适当反映各层之间的实际互视情况。最后,在创建单独的贴图和中间线后,使用depthmap中的手动连接来连接中间轴以及每个标高的相应轴线图。
    我们使用相同的技术对一个多级会议中心进行建模:
    http://www.space.bartlett.ucl.ac.uk/events/sc06/proceedings/hoelscher-sssc.pdf
   (第7页详细展示)
马丁

Dear colleagues,

I have been trying to apply AXIAL MAP ANALYSIS and CONVEX MAP ANALYSIS to a
built environment that includes two floors (one floor above the other).
How do I deal with the stairs and/or elevator in each of these analyses?
This is a basic, perhaps almost technical question: how are the two stories
connected in space syntax analysis?

Thank you very much,

Best regards,
Arch. Fanny Goldsmith, postgraduate student, Technion, I.I.T., Israel.


各位同事,
    我一直在尝试将轴线图分析和凸空间分析应用于包含两层(一层高于另一层)的建筑环境。
在这些分析中,我如何处理楼梯和/或电梯?
    这是一个基本的,也许几乎是技术性的问题:在空间句法分析中,如何连接这两层?
非常感谢,
Fanny


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